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"Being a carpenter is hard work and something to be proud of," says Ray

“Another comment on Red Seal qualifications, from Ray…

I couldn’t agree more with Jamie’s position on the matter of Red Seal Carpenters. If there are no barriers to entry or no compulsory qualifications, every jackass with a pickup truck and a skill saw can call him/herself a carpenter. That’s not to say there aren’t many competent unlicensed “carpenters,” in the same way there are many well -killed unlicensed people out there doing plumbing and electrical work, often working for cash!

The simple fact of the matter is that by setting and adhering to a nationally-recognized standard of skill, as is the case for other trades, the public will be better served and we’ll raise the bar for our industry. That said, it will be necessary to assist in transitioning those who want to become Red Seal Carpenters and it won’t be easy but being a carpenter shouldn’t be easy. Being a carpenter is hard work and something to be proud of.

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  1. Ken says:

    I’m a City & Guilds Carpenter & Joiner who challenged the red seal test and passed without studying for it, it’s really not that hard and I’m shocked as to how many “carpenters” I meet in Canada the haven’t read instructions for a tool let alone a book on carpentry. Growing up we were always told Canadian carpenters are amongst the best in the world,sadly that’s a big no.
    I strongly believe that carpenters should be licenced and that the current contractors licence is a complete joke. A verbal test at a city building from a guy looking for his next break? Really? This is a contractors licence? This is a joke and a money grab.
    I’ve worked as a union carpenter and gave that up as it’s completely over-rated and the skill level is woefull.

    I see an industry that has lowered its standards over the years to the lowest common denominators. There’s a prevailing “close enough” attitude that is for the most part hurting the good, the skilled and the ambitious.
    I don’t believe in the College of Trades, don’t need to line the pockets of bureaucrats that do nothing for the good of the trades. College of the privileged,pensions and perks.

    Yeah the truth hurts but I’m not wrong.

    If your not any good get out of the bloody way.
    Get some schooling,get some education,read a book,watch a video,try thinking. If there’s enough motivated and ambitious carpenters and contractors we can pull enough of the lessers up to a higher standard but we all need to move in the right direction.
    Let’s get our reputation back. Being a trade used to be a big thing,we looked down on teachers and cops as being semi-skilled.

    Pride in work and a job well done.
    Good money for good work.
    Work that stands the test of time.
    Honour amongst skilled trades
    Carpenters are the backbone of all the trades so let’s be strong and set the standard of skill.
    A good carpenter can look at themselves in the mirror and say “I’m going to get better and better and better.”

    Get on board before our trade goes the way of the painting trade. “Anyone can paint,but few should”

  2. kipal says:

    Hi I am going to red seal challenge test in carpentry but I am not ready I need help I need a teouter in carpentry thanks

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